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Thread: My first ride of shame.
Posted 12 October 2017 at 19:54:37 UK time
Tim Burchfield, Ohio, USA

The clevis pin fell out of of the clutch yoke at the throw out bearing arm. Just two weeks after putting the car back on the road. Who knew the cotter pin wasn't optional.

Tim
TD12524

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Posted 12 October 2017 at 22:32:51 UK time
W A Chasser, California, USA

Welcome to the club Tim. Lol. I've had the ride several times this year as I continue to work the kinks out.

In a club event I lost the adjuster off the rod at the other end. I ended up and drove the car 30 mi timing the stop lights ahead of me very carefully or having to kill the engine and then start off on the starter until I reached the freeway. Driving clutchless was a bit shaky to begin with and was able to shift without much trouble except for several occasions. I thought I was going pretty well until I got caught in a freeway traffic jam. Then I really had to judge my distance as idiots would constantly whip around me and take up my buffer zone. In the end we made it home without the slide bed on that occasion.

Bill Chasser
Td-4834

Posted 13 October 2017 at 00:14:25 UK time
William Revit, Tasmania

Tim
Fantastic--better check the pin through the brake pedal then--other people use the road as well

Bill
"Then I really had to judge my distance as idiots would constantly whip around me and take up my buffer zone."
You use the word idiots fairly freely there - as you drive along in the traffic with no clutch

Don't you guys have registration inspections over there- It really peees me off that cars are allowed on the road with life threatening faults
willy

Posted 13 October 2017 at 00:32:36 UK time
R Taylor, Australia

That will have put the cat among the pigeons Willy (lol)

Regards (whilst ducking)
Roger

Posted 13 October 2017 at 02:08:55 UK time
Tim Burchfield, Ohio, USA

Willaim, they have cars in Tasmania? :-)

Tim

Posted 13 October 2017 at 02:36:47 UK time
W A Chasser, California, USA

WR. Sorry you felt the need to be pee ed. Hope you showered and had a clean set of shorts 😁 But your comment is a bit harsh as it certainly wasn't life threatening for me or anyone else for that matter. And yes they are idiots when they race around me and take up my 5-6 car length buffer space as we all creep along at 5-10mph. That extra second they saved is just amazing if we were chasing a checkered flag on the final lap at Sears Point.

The car was a fresh restoration and the adjustment jam nut didn't hold. I was the only occupant in the car and I left the club run to limp back home. I had brakes. Certainly inconvenient, though I could always kick it out of gear when I needed to stop, stuff it back in gear and get moving again on the starter. Had I not had control of my car I would have loaded it.

I'm certainly glad you have a car that runs absolutely flawlessly and without incident. I think you are the exception and I applaud your and your car's flawless performance.

Cheers

Bill Chasser
TD-4834

Posted 13 October 2017 at 03:41:17 UK time
J Walker, South Australia, Australia, donaldwalks@gmail.com

I'm with you Bill, many a time I have limped home although not always in an MG. Many years ago my '56 VW broke the clutch cable, start in gear and off we go. I don't own 'perfect' MGs but I hope it doesn't happen too often.
Don TC 1736 TF 4887 SA 1018

Posted 13 October 2017 at 04:37:51 UK time
John Quilter (TD8986) , Oregon, USA

Some countries and some states put a lot of stock on vehicle safety inspections but statistics in the USA will show (2005-2007 NHTSA source) that only 2.0% of crashes are vehicle related compared to 93.5% driver related. Money or enforcement on improving driver behavior would be more effective use of resources IMHO. Breaking down the 93.5% shows 38.6% recognition error, (inattention), 31.2% decision error, e.g. driving too fast, performance error, e.g. over correction.

Posted 13 October 2017 at 05:40:53 UK time
rich40701, Corbin, KY

LOL My 1976 MG midget would have to of been inspected daily because parts tended to fly off daily, not nary an accident though.
Not to worry Tim, Bugs Bunny had a lot of trouble out of that fellar as well.

Posted 13 October 2017 at 08:01:22 UK time
Bruce Cunha, California, USA

Willy, You would have a heart attack if you came to Wisconsin. Not only do we not have inspections, some of the rust buckets that are driving around that they call cars would scare the heck out of you.

I understand the issue relating to safety, but that is another of those American quirks. "Drive um until they fall apart" is a common saying here.

As pointed out. A small percent of our accidents are due to vehicle issues.

Posted 13 October 2017 at 10:23:26 UK time
Bud Krueger, Marietta GA USA, budkrueger@comcast.net

Long time ago the throttle cable in my VW bug broke on my 40 mile homeward commute. After a bit of jury-rigging I succeeded in connecting the choke table to the throttle linkage. Shifting gears required 3 hands, one to operate the choke/throttle, one to handle the gearshift and one to handle the steering wheel. It was an interesting experience, this was in rush hour traffic. Bud

Posted 13 October 2017 at 11:11:45 UK time
William Revit, Tasmania

lol---is it safe to come out yet

Posted 13 October 2017 at 12:25:38 UK time
George Butz, Florida, USA

You can also drive an MGB with the choke cable connected to the throttle, and a VW Rabbit from Atlanta to central Florida with no clutch! Years ago Florida had state inspections, and the TD would always fail the brake part. If it would make 4 skid marks on dirt they would pass it. George

Posted 13 October 2017 at 15:44:29 UK time
Sanders, Florida, USA

GEORGE/BUD.
Great innovations and the will to get home.
I built a 1960 VW bug into a fibreglass roadster while I was stationed in France.
Returned to Canada in 1962 picking the car up at the dock in Quebec City finding that the throttle cable was broken at the eye on the gas pedal.
Pulled out the cable and poked a hole in the panel behind the seat. Lossened the E=brake cable and tied the wire to it, Then drove 180 miles to my new station using elbow on brake handle as gas feed. I must have driven it for another month that way while moving into a new home.
Sandy

Posted 13 October 2017 at 19:22:26 UK time
J. M. Haskins, Florida, USA

Willy,
In answer to your question, no there is no inspection in Florida. Neither safety or emissions. Back in 1976 or 77 the state legislature found that the cause of accidents related to vehicle inspection was about 4/10 of 1 percent. They closed the inspection stations and reduced fraud by inspectors and owners by 100 percent. Now 40 years later we still get along without any inspection.

Jim Haskins 1953 TD

Posted 13 October 2017 at 23:49:13 UK time
William Revit, Tasmania

Bill - Thankyou for refering to me as exceptional
Just a touch of friendly banter, please don't take me too seriously
Got some quick responses though which shows this part of the BBS is alive and well
Jim- Thanks fr the reply and yes I sort of agree
I worked as a vehicle inspector for a while and it's a difficult position to hold.
Towards the end of my short career in this field it was becoming more and more legally dangerous to continue as the onus of signing off on a vehicle was getting real serious with the safety of the vehicle being completely signed for putting the full responibility onto the inspector
An example would be missing seeing a split pin missing from the clevis pin of a brake pushrod, causing the pin to drop out and resulting in brake failure---If this caused a death or damage the inspector that signed it off is liable and could go to court on manslaughter charges etc
Bit of a stressful job all up but on the other hand you get to see lots of nicely restored cars--I looked at it more as a friendly double checker of enthusiasts restoration work-----but then the legal burden was always there
Cheers Guys
willy

Posted 14 October 2017 at 08:13:46 UK time
Stuart Duncan, 53TD, 50YTourer, Gold Coast, QLD, Australia

Willy, No annual safety inspections in Queensland. Vehicles are only inspected when first registered in the state or prior to selling them.
However, Police or Transport inspectors can alway pull you over and inspect the car. Police do a quick inspection when they stop you for RBT or speeding.
cheers
Stuart

Ps. just back from a 270 mile round trip in my 72 VW Beetle to Yamba to view the PreWar MGs (M, N, P, K, F, L, SA, TA) plus TC, TD, TF, A, B and modern at the Pre War MG Rally.

pss. The Blue TD in photo is ex South Africa and has original colour and wheels, I was told. Driver is 17year old grandson of owner.

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Posted 14 October 2017 at 09:03:51 UK time
William Revit, Tasmania

Stuart
No annual inspections here either
Same as Qld - Only on first rego in the state or if the rego has been expired for 3 months or more
No pre selling inspections or roadworthy tickets needed to sell a car
Same here with T/P inspectors and police
Taxi's inspected every year

Interesting TD with the colour and wires
Sounds like you had a good trip to Yamba
(I had to look Yamba up to see where it lives as I've never heard the name)Good spread of models
Cheers
willy

Being a Qld. er--Do you know if Peter Kerr still punts that yellow TC around

Posted 14 October 2017 at 23:10:14 UK time
Stuart Duncan, 53TD, 50YTourer, Gold Coast, QLD, Australia

Yes Peter Kerr still has his yellow TC "Roger Rebel" among his MGs and was at the Pre War Rally with his M type. Until very recently he has been active in my club and up on the Sunshine Coast. I am sure if well enough he will be in Tasmania for the next Nationals.

Stuart

Posted 15 October 2017 at 03:56:03 UK time
M Grogan, Arizona, USA, mg@akeene.com

I have been working on my TD for a week for the upcoming run to Olive Mill in Queen Creek Az.
Its a 79 mile one way run.
Mind you, I have rebuilt " almost everything" on the car in the last 1 1/2 years.
Well I took off this AM early and got 2 blocks from the house. next thing I know, the clutch is on the floor. I had it in 2nd gear so I used the key to turn engine on and off to slow down. made it back to the house.
Jacked it up and SURE enough, the clutch control shaft snapped off at end of threads.
Bummer. Walked back and found the bits that came off. Jumped in the van to go in the run anyway.
Soon as I got there... flat tire. Ate with the group and then went out to the dirt lot where we parked.
This thing has the spare tire under the car, but right under the 2 front seats.
Temp out is about 97 and sunny.
Couple of the guys stayed and helped out.
When we let down on the donut tire spare, its was a little low. Another guy had a pump, which helped a bit.
Went to the tire store and had to pony up for 4 new tires. I never buy just one and these have seen their better days.
$700.00 later driving home and wife calls to find out where I was( I had called her from the tire shop) She asked how much I spent then hung up. So Now I'm in the dog house for buying new tires.
I just can not win.
So how was your day.


Posted 15 October 2017 at 05:54:23 UK time
William Revit, Tasmania

Thanks Stuart--
Ha Ha -lol , I've never heard of 'it' being called Roger, but quite fitting
I have a photo of my son in with Peter in his green car from about 10,000 Natmeets ago down here--It's always taken top spot on the bookshelf
Cheers
willy

Posted 15 October 2017 at 10:52:24 UK time
W A Chasser, California, USA

Willy. No worries.

Bill Chasser
TD-4834

Posted 15 October 2017 at 16:13:43 UK time
L E D LaVerne, USA

Ahh....the ride of shame... been there done that.

I driven a number of cars home when the clutch has failed. Including an MGB GT about 200 miles. I've also driven some cars home with just one gear. one happened to be a VW bug that belonged to my sister. Shifted from 1st to second leaving a stop light the the previously brazed lever broke right off at the floor??? So I pitched it it the back seat and continued on the 15 miles home.
At the other end of that spectrum was an employee of my wife's bus called and said the Ford Ranger pickup couldn't be driven the 45 miles back home and the transmission was shot. I drove to his location and found that the truck had 4th gear (direct) but nothing else. He couldn't believe it when I told him to get out and drive my as I was driving the Ranger home. Sure there was a hell of a lot of clutch burning to get it rolling but the only problem going home was a couple of hills that it nearly couldn't pull in 4th and a few stop lights when I got close to town. I knew the truck wasn't going to be repaired as it had a hundred jillion miles on it, so I did not want to add a tow bill if I could get away with it.

I drove a 66 Chevy pickup home with no brakes when one of the front rubber lines ruptured from rubbing against the tire (my dads truck). Kind of a pain since the e brake I was using was a hand wratchet type under the dash.

Also drove home my Sprite when the throttle cable broke and i had nothing to work with. I took the styrafoam antenna ball (remember those?) and wedged it in the throttle to keep the engine at about 3500 rpm and it got me home. Always makes for good stories later...but not so much when it happens.

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Posted 15 October 2017 at 22:39:55 UK time
M Grogan, Arizona, USA, mg@akeene.com

Brakes... AH Yea that takes me back..

My first car. I really wanted to do it right !
My Step dad was not much on cars so I tried myself.
Jacked up the front - pulled wheels and drums. Going good so far0. As a 15 year old I could do this.
As I looked at the brake pads.. me at 15...they looked dirty and maybe need replaced. So I took them off.
Checked my bank in the house. Yep I had $15.00 which was what the guy on the phone said.
Put the drums back on and the wheels.

Now just thinking about those new shinny brake shoes... off I went. Heck it was only
15 miles in the city I was living in California.
Some how I made it most of the way without having to hit the brakes much. But then on a 4 lane road, in a crosswalk... this old lady was walking across and I was rolling..

Slammed on the brakes and NOTHING. Now in a panic I jerked the shift lever into low. At about 40 MPH. Some help but I am thinking that she better get moving. Then I thought I might pull the E- brake. That slowed me enough that she just got out of the way.
I remember my eyes felt as big as a hub cap.
When I got the new brakes, the guy asked what else I needed. I said couple cans of fluid and your bathroom.
Then I drove home at about 5 MPH. I got lucky this time.

Posted 18 October 2017 at 19:20:38 UK time
Christopher Couper, California, USA, mgtd@mg-cars.org.uk

My wife loves to remind me often of the time I refused to put anymore than one quart of oil in the car and then spun a bearing (maybe related?). Anyway the car got flat beaded and new bearings installed and I hear about it anytime she questions a decision I make on any subject. I am doomed for life. :-(

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