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Thread: Re-positioning the Steering Wheel
Posted 20 March 2017 at 01:30:20 UK time
S Griffin, Illinois, USA, simon_grif@msn.com

My steering wheel is 90 degrees out. The PO must have moved it, and the screw that would have secured the center disk has been cut off allowing the center disk to be pressed into place, held by electrical tape! I found this out when the disk just fell into my lap. What is the simplest way to re position the wheel? Is it a case of undoing the big nut behind the center disk, or by loosening the clamp under the dash. Before I just start un-doing things I thought I would ask :-)

I am going to have to drill out the retaining screw as the head is long gone and the shaft is still in the lug that is attatched to the center disk.

Thanks much
Simon

Posted 20 March 2017 at 10:12:21 UK time
Ray Lee, Merseyside, United Kingdom, raybar2@tiscalidotcodotuk

first check that your track rods are adjusted to about the same length. If not then loosen and adjust them 1 turn at a time (one in one out) until they are equal. If the wheel is now in the right place tighten the rods.
If it is nearly right you can fine tune by adjustment of the rods (same way one in one out)until correct. If it is a long way out you can move the shaft round 120deg at the coupling and adjust.
Also the previous owner may have left out the key on the splined wheel shaft. If you loosen the clamp and the wheel will pull straight out then that is what has been done, it is probably a good idea to check that first.
Ray TF 2884

Posted 20 March 2017 at 16:51:49 UK time
Byron Warwick, Corunna, ON Canada, bandb@cogeco.ca

What about the universal joint that is located in the engine compartment. I know it is only three segments but that may help. Hard to get at I know in a TF.
Byron.

Posted 20 March 2017 at 18:14:19 UK time
Paul Jennings, USA

Just a little information, on a LHD TF, the bolts to connect the steering shaft to the rack are easier to get at from under the car, a little more wiggle room. Worked for me. PJ

Posted 21 March 2017 at 00:50:39 UK time
Bruce Cunha, California, USA

Agree. May be easier to simply take the universal joint apart and re position the wheel.

Posted 21 March 2017 at 01:50:14 UK time
S Griffin, Illinois, USA, simon_grif@msn.com

Thanks, universal joint approach seems like the best option. Glad I did not just start undoing nuts behind the wheel!!

Posted 21 March 2017 at 08:54:19 UK time
D A Provan, New Zealand

There's also a chance that the splined section of the shaft attached to the wheel lacks its key and has been put in a few splines out. I'd check this first, as it is the simplest thing to do.

David

Posted 21 March 2017 at 15:47:34 UK time
tm peterson, Illinois, USA

As stated above, the shell is keyed to the column. The adjustment will be at the steering rack to column location OR the pinion is engaged incorrectly with the rack. Regards, Tom

Posted 21 March 2017 at 16:21:20 UK time
Ray Lee, Merseyside, United Kingdom, raybar2@tiscalidotcodotuk

That is why I suggested centralising the rack to check how much it has been messed about with.Once you have a datum you can adjust everything else to it.
Ray TF 2884

Posted 21 March 2017 at 16:48:11 UK time
MAndrus, N Carolina

I would center the rack and see where the wheel falls, as well as the tires. It could be that matching but opposite turns on the tie rod ends might do it.

Posted 21 March 2017 at 20:36:24 UK time
D A Provan, New Zealand

Just following up on my earlier comment, the feather key that locates the splined shaft can easily be removed and, if it is, the shaft does not have a master spline and can be put back in any position. Mine was out by a spline or two when I got it, for this reason. I'd like to hear back from OP on the results of any check on this. 90 degrees out is one hell of a long way for the other maladjustments mentioned.

David

Posted 21 March 2017 at 21:15:51 UK time
S Griffin, Illinois, USA, simon_grif@msn.com

David, I am looking at the exploded diagram on the Moss web site, http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32785

I want to be clear on terminology so that I don't misunderstand anything.

There is a key (8) that is between the wheel and the upper shaft. Then there is another key (7) for the adjusting shaft. Is the adjusting shaft on the moss site what you mean by the splined shaft?

Thanks much
Simon

Posted 21 March 2017 at 21:19:58 UK time
S Griffin, Illinois, USA, simon_grif@msn.com

I just looked at the Abingdon Spares site and see the correct naming convention on it.

Posted 22 March 2017 at 02:18:29 UK time
t lange, Maine, USA, tlange@acadia.net

To make life more difficult, both the steering box shaft and the tri-lolbe flange have index marks that should line up. Judicious cleaning will reveal them both.

Tom Lange
MGT Repair

Posted 22 March 2017 at 03:47:37 UK time
D A Provan, New Zealand

Simon, that's right. 6 is the splined adjusting shaft and 7 is its key. If you just slacken the adjusting bolt, #10, and try to pull the wheel and adjusting shaft right out, you'll know if there is a key in it. If not, you've got the easy fix of lining the wheel up correctly and sliding it in. Finding another key would then be a good idea.

If the key is fitted, you are back with all the other splendid suggestions above. Whatever you adjust, you'll need a proper steering alignment afterwards,

Good luck, David

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